258 - The Strategist Archetype

According to Katherine Fauvre

Community descriptions

Karkino (Personality Cafe)^[1]

2+5: The Advisor

• Double rejection.
• Pairing that is the most interested in learning about why people do what they do.
• Appear emotionally guarded by amiable at the same time.
• Pairing opposing two different polarities that can be difficult to sustain harmoniously.
• Oscillate between the need to reach out to others and retreat inside their minds.
• Often attentive and observant of other’s many needs and behaviors.
• Good listeners: want to understand what people have to say without being intrusive.
• Sociable, but they need a lot of alone time.
• Deny their own needs and may think that others might need them and not the reverse.
• Less likely than other TWOs to feel openly entitled and resentful of others if they don’t show immediate appreciation for services and deeds.
• Often express anger and hostility in an indirect manner, even if core EIGHT.
• Can spend a long time of their day observing and analyzing people.
• Often have hidden intentions, not truly open with what they want.
• Learn early how they can be of service and appreciated while not being overwhelmed by their environment.
• Help people by giving out advices, tips and personal knowledge.
• Pride comes from being knowledgeable and not feeling the need to spend too much time with people to be satisfied.
• Often provide help, then return to the shadows when they are done.
• Some people with this combination make very good psychologists, advisors, etc.
• Often more comfortable with one-on-one conversation than with a crowd.
• Manage avarice by limiting and controlling time and resources allocated to people.
• The 5 fix helps the core 2 to pull back from the action and be more aware of the subtle interactions and be interested in it.
• The 2 fix helps the core 5 to pitch in and be part of the group and understand that they can profit emotionally from what they know.

2+8: The Protector

• Double rejection.
• Paring that is the most protective and manipulative.
• Enhances the natural line of connection to TWO and EIGHT.
• This is the mama/papa bear archetype.
• Manage their insecurities by looking how they can shield people from being harm or misguided.
• Help people in a forceful, direct approach.
• Very wary of being ignored and rejected.
• Can get easily riled up, then apology in fear of being rejected.
• May say that they don’t need people and are independent, yet still want others to like them and be important.
• Pride comes from taking a stand for others that can’t.
• Very emotionally guarded since they don’t want to feel needy nor underestimated.
• Can inadvertently control others by telling them how to act for their own good.
• Offended and hurt if people reject their advice or help.
• May understand better than most people how people can manipulate others for their own profit.
• May tie their worth on how their protect, advice and prevent loved one from being taken advantage of.
• Can become overly protective and suspicious of strangers trying to interact with people they affectionate.
• Show they love by being upfront and honest about what they think and feel.
• Can be forceful and threatening in the way they help.
• The 8 fix helps the core 2 to assert their needs and be more direct about what they covet.
• The 2 fix helps the core 8 soften their aggressive demeanor and understand the impact of interpersonal connections.

5+8: The Independent

• Double rejection.
• Pairing that is the most strategic in their thinking.
• Enhances the natural line of connection to FIVE and EIGHT.
• This is the chess master or the mastermind.
• Very strong opinions about topic they like or study.
• Knowledge is power to them.
• Never attack upfront first but can be sneaky and never let its sight away from their opponent.
• Often doesn’t rely on one course of action and can change on a whim according to the situation.
• May be underestimated by their peers because of the FIVE’s low energy giving the EIGHT are more subdued presence.
• This FIVE is less intellectual in the sense of bookworm and more streetwise as this pairing learns best by experience.
• They oscillate between action and observation very quickly as to never be truly in the moment nor completely still.
• They often look calm and fixated on something, as they are waiting to strike on their prey at the right time.
• Menacing or unfriendly presence even if unintentional.
• Mix of hot and cold energy; may be hard to follow and hard to know deeply.
• Their heart is very well protected and can be hard to access even to them.
• Often have a razor-sharp mind and are very good at problem-solving.
• Have a difficult time connecting with others in a casual, superficial way.
• Can alternate between periods of action and reflection.
• The 8 fix helps the core 5 putting their ideas out there and assert themselves.
• The 5 fix helps the core 8 understand the need to contemplate in order to better grasp the situation.

Personality Types blog^[2]

5-2-8

These Fives take pleasure in helping and directing other people, but in the process can end up imposing their own views in a more or less direct manner. They need to stay in control of their relationships and although they make generous, devoted and fearless friends and partners, others might perceive them as possessive, demanding and domineering. These types tend to intrude on others while at the same time remaining secretive and self-protective themselves, hiding their own needs and problems.
Typical subtypes: sexual, 5w4, 5w6 (counterphobic wing)
Similar tritypes: 5-8-2, 2-5-8
Flavours: self-confident, generous, dominating and possessive.

5-8-2

These Fives are more focused on and involved with their environments. They’re typically quite imposing and intrusive on others’ lives although they don’t like it when the reverse happens. They are dedicated, courageous, confident and passionate people, sometimes overprotective of their loved ones and having a tendency to dominate and more or less subtly manipulate others into believing as they do. Aiming for a position of power and authority, these Fives have a deep urge to closely control their worlds.
Yypical subtypes: social, sexual, 5w6 (counterphobic wing)
Similar tritypes: 5-2-8, 8-5-2
Flavours: self-confident, controlling, passionate and brave.

References

[1] Karkino (2019), Enneagram Pairings Revised & Expanded Edition
[2] Personality Types Blog (2009), Tritype Descriptions: Five