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478 - The Messenger Archetype

According to Katherine Fauvre

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Karkino (Personality Cafe)[1]

4+7: The Whimsical

  • Double frustration.
  • Pairing that is the most imaginative and fantastical.
  • This is the enfant terrible with a wild imagination.
  • See imaginative ways to practical problems.
  • Very idealistic but with unstable and fickle energy.
  • Want significance and playfulness in their daily lives.
  • May prefer their inner imagination to the drearier side of life.
  • Capricious and bratty in behavior since they want things done in a fun, playful manner.
  • They often hide their sadness and disenchantment behind impish or childlike behavior.
  • Easily bored since they see always see how life could be better and more meaningful in many ways.
  • Bipolar/dysthymic mind; oscillate between sadness and joy.
  • See things that are missing in order for the situation to be magical and original.
  • They feel miserable in conventional workplace that doesn’t allow creative thinking.
  • Easily see how certain situations can be stifling and boring and try to avoid them.
  • Can be impatient with their own negative feelings and move on too quickly instead of settling down and rooting out the cause of their anxiety.
  • This paring amplifies the need to be connected to our inner child and the importance of self-nurturance.
  • Seek to validate and exteriorize their magical inner world yet often feel bummed up by realistic expectations.
  • Feel conflicted with their need for immediate mental satisfaction clashing with their need for manifesting their emotional truth.
  • The 7 fix helps the core 4 find enjoyable ways to deal with their feelings of lacking and seek out novel solutions to bring out their creative side.
  • The 4 fix helps the core 7 stop chasing down countless options and be more sensitive to the emotional quality and nuances that each of them have.

4+8: The Maskless

  • Double reactive.
  • Pairing that has the most difficulty with superficiality and lying in general.
  • Most intuitive pairing; see possibilities long before most people.
  • Intense reactivity to perceived dishonesty, falsehood and conventional thinking.
  • Most creative and unconventional pairing.
  • Out-of-the-box thinking and problem-solving.
  • Like to dig deep into emotional traumas, not afraid of defying taboos.
  • Protect the vulnerable, the rejected, the abandoned, the different.
  • Wants to live life according to their own musing, rejecting external expectations.
  • Are their own authority and can easily delve into insubordination.
  • Don’t have any problem going against the grain and be oppositional.
  • If it doesn’t ring true to them, it’s no gonna be validated.
  • They don’t sugarcoat anything, and they mean every word of it.
  • They trust their gut and their heart, so they are very instinctive in everything they do.
  • Often see right through others and intuitively know what makes people tick and how they manage everyday problems.
  • They often have piercing, intense look in their face.
  • This EIGHT is more conscious of its emotional needs and less fearful of its vulnerable side.
  • This pairing brings out intensity and emotional truthfulness.
  • People with this combination are extremely sensitive to insincerity and deceit.
  • Feel things strongly and express them in a powerful and/or eccentric way.
  • Can say deep or unconventional truths that few people might have reflected on before.
  • The 8 fix helps the core 4 assert their creative side and make something out of it.
  • The 4 fix helps the core 8 get in touch with their emotions and vulnerable side as well as their intuition.

7+8: The Conqueror

  • Double assertive.
  • Pairing that wants freedom and assert their will the most.
  • Enhances the natural wings of 7 and 8.
  • Has the greatest difficulty of all pairings will external or imposed limits, often circumventing or breaking them in order to get what they want.
  • Typically have a hard time to say no to their desires.
  • Life is a playground; "I take what I want".
  • A blend of hedonistic and realistic approach to life.
  • Feel the best when they get things done their way.
  • Always on the lookout to take charge in a situation and having fun while doing it.
  • Love a good challenge and usually succeed a overtaking them.
  • When they are invested into something, it’s hard for them to slow down because they love the intensity of the situation and usually find ways renew its interest.
  • It’s hard for them to look for potential pitfalls and be wary of new endeavors.
  • They want freedom to manifest what they crave out of life.
  • They might not see how important it is to cultivate their inner lives and understand why they do what they do.
  • May take for granted what others find offensive and obnoxious.
  • Good negotiator: Always find a way to win something.
  • Quick thinker and smooth talker; direct speech but in a funny, original way.
  • They need to learn to slow down and think about potential consequences.
  • Most excessive and grandiose viewpoint of all pairings.
  • Have and unmistakable big energy and dynamic presence.
  • The 8 fix helps the core 7 to anchor their attention on goals and crave things more intensely.
  • The 7 fix helps the core 8 divert their lust for power in many different viewpoints and help broaden personal scope.

Some Intellectualizing C**t blog[2]

Probably comes off extroverted, what with 7 and 8 both in the mix. Very direct, and assertive. A lot more relaxed than say, 458 or 468, they’re probably going to the one who tells 458 to loosen up, and 468 to lighten up. High energy. Intense. Bold. Creative. Self expressive. Can be scattered and belligerent as well as highly emotional if underdeveloped, positive and excitable, emotionally honest, friendly when they are. Impulsive, risk takers. Challenge the norm. Take pride in their individuality, not likely to conform. Innovative, enjoys their freedom. Somewhat flamboyant. Eccentric, individualistic. Probably not as emotional in the “moping” sense but in a more loss of self control, “angry” outbursts manner, but at their best, engaging, influential, encouraging, vibrant, bright, and unique to themselves.


[1] Karkino (2021), Enneagram Pairings Revised & Expanded Edition
[2] enlightenedsilhouette (2016), Enneagram 4 Tritypes

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